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babydracoIt seems that fans don't want a Wonderland spinoff if Sebastian Stan isn't going to be in it. Reading the Ausiello comments, it appears that there are only two other actors they'd even accept in the role (Andrew Potts or Seth Gabel), but mostly, people are baffled as to why the network thinks recasting will work. Fans adored Jefferson because of what his actor brought to the role, most people are saying that they'd rather wait until Stan is free to come back than put up with a substitute in the spinoff. It's the Hatter as played by Stan that people responded so well to, not the idea of Wonderland itself. I mean, Alice in Wonderland is always a safe, popular property for anyone doing, well, anything,(for me, it's absolutely one of my favorite stories ever- I had an Alice costume when I was little) but people would be more okay with not getting a spinoff than they would be with not getting Sebastian Stan back ever.
It's not just that he's a devastatingly good looking man with great chemistry with at least two of the show's actresses, it's that if he never comes back he's leaving a lot of plotholes. This is why I stopped watching daytime soaps, because they believe that you can simply replace one actor with another very similar one and it won't make a difference, and it does.
It'd be far better for ABC to sort out the current problems with Once, like their giant cast and numerous dropped plots, than spread themselves too thin with a spinoff.
So in another TWoP thread, some posters claimed Sebastian Stan doesn't "look old enough" to play someone with a preteen.
I read the comments on a Hot Tub Time Machine clip where they were discussing his upcoming "Winter Soldier" role and someone said "that Russian hater is going to play a Russian?" And I thought-well, first I thought, I mean, has he ever said he hates Russia or are they just weirdly assuming that for whatever reason? Don't worry, this isn't random- because I then thought, "isn't he like, really young?" I mean, he was on Gossip Girl and those characters were all born after the breakup of the Soviet Union, so even if most of the actors were not teenagers it wouldn't take much for them to still be very, very young, how would he even..." (I'm assuming that's what they were implying this is about, but what do I know, I'm not the one who thinks that's relevant to Hot Tub Time Machine youtube comments). And then I looked him up on IMDB to find out his age. He's...one year younger than me. The point is...well, besides the point where I don't really care how he feels about Russia...
Thirty is certainly old enough to have a 10-12 year old child. Although he (Hatter/Jefferson) comes from a temporally ambiguous society (Alice in Wonderland is a Victorian novel, while much of the rest of FTL seems a strange mix of eras), I doubt FTLnders are encouraged to finish high school and get most of a college degree before marrying and popping out babies. Thinking of children as something you only start making after you've done everything else you wanted to do is a very, very, recent concept. Prior to the start of the twentieth century, most people were encouraged to get busy reproducing as soon as possible. Jefferson clearly didn't wait til he had his life together.
The actor's breakout role was on a teen soap, of course he looks younger than his real age (basically, Taylor Momsen was the only one playing her real age on that show). But on OUaT, Hatter's age is never actually stated. So he could be thirty and just look young. Which I don't actually think he does. I think he looks thirty or at least in his late twenties.
Not that I'm, at this point, really sure what thirty looks like. I feel younger than I really am and often have to check myself and realize that I've been out of high schoolan entire decade almost thirteen years. I watch "Friends" and realize these people were the age I am now. I was so used to thinking of them as way older than me. Yet, Sam and Dean Winchester, I totally believe are my age(Dean and my sister were born the same year). Maybe it's because the "Friends" people act and dress like grownups,with their executive jobs and huge apartments and business clothes, while Sam and Dean are still eating meals consisting of Cheetos and beer and living out of their car.
Can you guess which set of characters I can identify more with? Successful people with spouses and children who work in offices and wear beautiful clothes and do things like own boats, lives proceeding in an orderly and timely fashion along the stages our society expects them to...or two guys whose lives have not changed all that much in the last eight years. I have a feeling it started out as a story where they'd eventually start growing up but that got lost in a bunch of other stuff (and a refusal to allow Dean specifically, to ever change his lifestyle) so they've become stalled. Stalled, I understand...thirty...I don't know what that is.
It's not just that he's a devastatingly good looking man with great chemistry with at least two of the show's actresses, it's that if he never comes back he's leaving a lot of plotholes. This is why I stopped watching daytime soaps, because they believe that you can simply replace one actor with another very similar one and it won't make a difference, and it does.
It'd be far better for ABC to sort out the current problems with Once, like their giant cast and numerous dropped plots, than spread themselves too thin with a spinoff.
So in another TWoP thread, some posters claimed Sebastian Stan doesn't "look old enough" to play someone with a preteen.
I read the comments on a Hot Tub Time Machine clip where they were discussing his upcoming "Winter Soldier" role and someone said "that Russian hater is going to play a Russian?" And I thought-well, first I thought, I mean, has he ever said he hates Russia or are they just weirdly assuming that for whatever reason? Don't worry, this isn't random- because I then thought, "isn't he like, really young?" I mean, he was on Gossip Girl and those characters were all born after the breakup of the Soviet Union, so even if most of the actors were not teenagers it wouldn't take much for them to still be very, very young, how would he even..." (I'm assuming that's what they were implying this is about, but what do I know, I'm not the one who thinks that's relevant to Hot Tub Time Machine youtube comments). And then I looked him up on IMDB to find out his age. He's...one year younger than me. The point is...well, besides the point where I don't really care how he feels about Russia...
Thirty is certainly old enough to have a 10-12 year old child. Although he (Hatter/Jefferson) comes from a temporally ambiguous society (Alice in Wonderland is a Victorian novel, while much of the rest of FTL seems a strange mix of eras), I doubt FTLnders are encouraged to finish high school and get most of a college degree before marrying and popping out babies. Thinking of children as something you only start making after you've done everything else you wanted to do is a very, very, recent concept. Prior to the start of the twentieth century, most people were encouraged to get busy reproducing as soon as possible. Jefferson clearly didn't wait til he had his life together.
The actor's breakout role was on a teen soap, of course he looks younger than his real age (basically, Taylor Momsen was the only one playing her real age on that show). But on OUaT, Hatter's age is never actually stated. So he could be thirty and just look young. Which I don't actually think he does. I think he looks thirty or at least in his late twenties.
Not that I'm, at this point, really sure what thirty looks like. I feel younger than I really am and often have to check myself and realize that I've been out of high school
Can you guess which set of characters I can identify more with? Successful people with spouses and children who work in offices and wear beautiful clothes and do things like own boats, lives proceeding in an orderly and timely fashion along the stages our society expects them to...or two guys whose lives have not changed all that much in the last eight years. I have a feeling it started out as a story where they'd eventually start growing up but that got lost in a bunch of other stuff (and a refusal to allow Dean specifically, to ever change his lifestyle) so they've become stalled. Stalled, I understand...thirty...I don't know what that is.
